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angelfruit Pioneer

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: Angels |
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OK. Here goes. I guess that you all probably know that I am "into" angels (name, right?). I don't know too much about it, all that I know is that on a couple of occasions when I have been in really bad situations (ie almost car crash) then there has been a tiny white feather underneath my handbag on the passenger seat of my car. I can't explain it, I don't try to understand it, all I know is that I believe it.
Hopefully there will be a true angel expert out there that knows a lot more than me. :study:
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mummymelly Pioneer

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I've heard when you see a white feather, your angel is near you. Don't know much else though! |
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dingsy Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| How fascinating. I often feel the "presence" of something/someone, at differing times. I like to think it's my Mum now being my guardian angel (she died 20 years ago, aged only 50, from breast cancer). I don't know if I'm being over imaginative, but whatever it is, is a source of comfort and joy to me. At times I've felt that if I look around, she'll be there, as I feel her presence so powerfully. I still talk to her, and feel that she's snuggled on my shoulder- in some respects, the people we love dearly never really leave us, do they? |
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angelfruit Pioneer

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I know that if I am driving and am stuck behind a "doris" going way too slowly, or driving erratically etc then if I ask the driving angels to move them out of the way, they usually do. To the point where now, we ask them to move them if they're not too busy and then the girls all shout "thank you angels" once the offending vehicle has turned
We also have the wine cork angel, who will prevent the cork from breaking at the point of opening (as sometimes happens in haste!)
Seriously though - I figure God is too busy with the big stuff, but there are millions of angels. Some angels are here on earth - we see stories of wonderful things every day. Some angels are our personal angels (or guardian angels) who protect only us. The girls got very sad when a friend of mine had a miscarriage (they had already been told of the impending excitement by the friend). We decided to tell them about angel babies and now when they see the news about small children dying, it is less stressful for them, because they figure that the angel babies and other angels will take care of them all.
Love and hugs to all x _________________ Be who you are, and say what you feel ... because those who mind don't matter ... and those who matter don't mind.
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patweb Pioneer

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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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That all sounds lovely Dawn. Never really thought much about angels before, but will be looking out for them now. I'll have to look out for the wine cork angel.  |
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Dawn, my friend always gets little feather's left for her and she is really 'into' this, her Angel has a name and she does talk to her as well... I do believe we've all got a guardian angel watching over us :) |
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angelfruit Pioneer

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Tina40 wrote: | | Dawn, my friend always gets little feather's left for her and she is really 'into' this, her Angel has a name and she does talk to her as well... I do believe we've all got a guardian angel watching over us :) |
Thanks guys, I don't feel such a nut for sharing it now. A lot of mates think I am a bit loopy - so it reduces the inclination to talk about it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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I think theres something in it, I read up on it a bit.
I began having feathers appear when I was going through a bad patch and for some reason I believe my angel is my great grandma who died years and years before I was born.
When I was a little girl I had an "imgaginary friend" who was an old lady and apparently her description fitted my Mums granma.
Dingsy ....
My Mum also died of breast cancer 25 years ago when she was 53, I think of her almost every day but sadly I don't often feel her presence, although it could be her behind the feathers I didn't sense her. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Would you hate me if I tried to play devils advocate for a moment?
I can sympathise and empathise with those of you who seemed to have had a profoundly moving experience. I won't try to take that experience away from you, but what if you were to take that feather to an Ornithologist and she said it belonged to a pigeon or a seagull? Would that change you views? |
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angelfruit Pioneer

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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Paul2007 wrote: | Would you hate me if I tried to play devils advocate for a moment?
I can sympathise and empathise with those of you who seemed to have had a profoundly moving experience. I won't try to take that experience away from you, but what if you were to take that feather to an Ornithologist and she said it belonged to a pigeon or a seagull? Would that change you views? |
Hi Paul (love your avatar by the way) Does this mean that you will be the little monkey of our group?
Pigeon or a seagull? No - don't think it would. Have you never read "Jonathan Livingstone Seagull?!? One of the most uplifting reads ever as a teenager - very positive and encouraging. Love it. So no - who says seagulls can't be angels by a different guise? As long as they are there for those of us that hold faith in them I'm not bothered. At the end of the day I think there are more angels on earth maybe than in heaven.
However, o/h would disagree and say that I am talking sentimental tosh with rose-tinted glasses on again. Maybe I like to believe that people are inherently (sp?) good and we should trust people more. Maybe I/we will get burned - but think of the lost opportunities if we don't.
Love and to all. _________________ Be who you are, and say what you feel ... because those who mind don't matter ... and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| angelfruit wrote: | | Paul2007 wrote: | Would you hate me if I tried to play devils advocate for a moment?
I can sympathise and empathise with those of you who seemed to have had a profoundly moving experience. I won't try to take that experience away from you, but what if you were to take that feather to an Ornithologist and she said it belonged to a pigeon or a seagull? Would that change you views? |
Hi Paul (love your avatar by the way) Does this mean that you will be the little monkey of our group?
Pigeon or a seagull? No - don't think it would. Have you never read "Jonathan Livingstone Seagull?!? One of the most uplifting reads ever as a teenager - very positive and encouraging. Love it. So no - who says seagulls can't be angels by a different guise? As long as they are there for those of us that hold faith in them I'm not bothered. At the end of the day I think there are more angels on earth maybe than in heaven.
However, o/h would disagree and say that I am talking sentimental tosh with rose-tinted glasses on again. Maybe I like to believe that people are inherently (sp?) good and we should trust people more. Maybe I/we will get burned - but think of the lost opportunities if we don't.
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Not read that one I'm afraid.
I also believe, as you do, that we are innately good, altruistic and compassionate, but it is nurtured fear and lack of knowledge that causes us to distrust and become self-centred. Tackling fear is no easy feat, but tackling ignorance is easy considering we now live in a society where the world's knowledge is instantly accessible. So, I try to stick with 'Ockham's Razor' where the simplest theory is preferable and that an explanation for unknown phenomena should first be attempted in terms of what is already known. This principle gives me comfort and trust in myself, and keeps me more rational. I'm afraid I would have to agree with your o/h, but I adore your sentiments as I'm sure your o/h would. |
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blueflower Pioneer

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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Until I started to hear about angels on here I hadn't given the subject much thought, especially guardian angels.
I was brought up in a Christian home when the bible was very important. Of course angels are often spoken off in the bible but more in the role of messengers rather than guardians. I have heard the term guardian angel used but didn't really give it any serious attention.
I think I am a bit of a fence sitter on this one. Emotional I would love to have someone guarding me and looking after me, but I can't help asking questions. When I have had a 'near do' on the road I have thought it was my driving skills that saved the day. But if it was a guarding angel, what happened to other peoples angels when the car crash actually happen and someone died or was seriously injured?
But I don't dismiss anything out of hand and I do beleive that for all the knowledge we have, humans are still in the infant stage and we have a lot to learn yet. And I am always intrested in things like this and like to explore the possiblities. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm very much with Blueflower on this.
But, like any other belief it affects our perceptions so if it works it works and if it makes a person view things differently it will work.
Any sort of belief system affects our perceptions and if it is one that
a) helps us see good in people
b) helps us accept that bad things sometimes happen to good people
c) enables us to appreciate the good things that happen in our life
and all the other things that enable us to feel joy and happiness at times in our lives then what does it matter what we call it; be it a belief in an organised religion, angels, gemstones or any other system. If it leads us to believe that our belief makes us better than someone else or in a postion to judge someone else then I don't think it serves any sort of higher purpose - but that is just my belief.
Funnily enough, I was thinking about this as I was driving down the road the other day and there was this really slow car in front of me. I followed Angelfruit's idea and asked the driving angels to move them out the way. And guess what - they turned right at the end of the road (only about 10 - 15% do that) out of my way. Does it prove anything - not at all, do I care nope. I'll try it again - it makes me laugh and even mind less about being held up and that can only be good. |
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dingsy Site Admin

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Digressing (slightly!!), from the topic. Like Gwen I think that mankind has only tapped a tiny part of the brain's potential-very much in the infant stage, as she said. I wonder if this too contributes to our experiences,and our attempt and desire to rationalize/explain them. Returning to my experience of feeling my Mum close at hand-logically I know that she's not, but the feeling of well being that these (rare) experiences give me is overpowering. Why therefore, bother to explain it-it comforts me to think that she is somehow there-so I quit while ahead, and accept the feelings with gratitude.No feathers, or anything, Paul-just an intensely strong feeling of being watched over (in a protective manner), lasting for several minutes.
I also seem to have an uncanny knack to be able to surprise people, with my sense of timing. A week rarely goes by without me phoning/emailing/contacting a friend /family member, only to be told "I was just about to phone you". It's such a regular occurence that I scarcely even mention it anymore. It's as well that I'm alive in this day and age: a few centuries ago I would have been accused of witchcraft
As Hec said-anything that helps us appreciate the good things that happen in life, can be a source of strength and comfort, even if it can't be explained. |
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angelfruit Pioneer

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