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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davbro wrote:
angelfruit wrote:


 Why should somebody on £200k pay the same amount as somebody on £20k or less.

I have to disagree with that, I am in the lower range but I would not expect to go in to Woolworths and pay a different price for a CD (for example) than someone who earns 10 times my salary.

Hope I don`t upset anyone with that view.


Have to say I agree with Dave.

Brian is very well paid, loves his job, works extraordinary long hours. We have never used either education or health services so far. Both kids went to private schools from the age of 4, we paid all their uni expenses.......I daren't even do the sums. Naturally, throughtout these years, Brian has been continued to be taxed at the top end of the bracket.

So, the flip side of the coin is that high earners can annd do contribute huge amounts-and take nothing back.

Re NHS-A slightly ludicrous situation arose for me some years ago.Cancer treatment was undertaken privately. I developed lymphoedema some years later-the only way of controlling this condition is through compression bandaging, applied daily-in my case, from my shoulder to the tips of my fingers. The staff trained to do this are hospice nurses, amd so I had to attend our local hopspice for several years, as an out patient. On learning that I came via the private system, the hospice was embarassed to admit to me that they would have to charge me for treatment. I even had to buy my own specialised bandages-which at that time cost about £70 and needed replaced monthly.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A whole can of worms indeed!

I do think that the (UK) government needs to put its sensible head on for a while (OK, so it'll probably need to find such a head first, but that's another debate ).  Maybe the first thing to change should be the automatic right to free welfare (heath and social care) for immigrants and migrant workers.  That would plug quite a big hole, I'd have thought.

It is also important to think back to the beginnings of the Welfare State as we know it; the idealism that brought about its inception.  It was believed that if people were offered free healthcare, people would be fitter and therefore need less healthcare; in fact, healthcare is a bottomless pit, and however well you care for folk, they get sick and they have accidents etc etc.  The other problem to add into this little melting-pot is that medical science has advanced so much in the past 60 years, which has pushed costs up-and-up.

Similar problems face the Old Age Pension scheme - 60 years ago, men were only expected to live a year or two beyond the retirement age of 65; thereby only claiming pensions for a very short period.  Now, people are commonly living into their 80s and 90s, thereby claiming OAP for 15, 20 or even 30 years!  This inevitalby stretches the funds available.

I'm not sticking up for the government, past or present; but it's not a problem I'd like to have the personal responsibility of solving, either  

I do feel that elective cosmetic surgery should be on some sort of clinical basis; Hec's ops were NOT purely cosmetic - the boob-job was, in particular, necessary to protect her back due to the weight-balance problem.  I think that IVF on the NHS should have some sort of similar criteria for deciding; a long-established, stable and loving relationship as a minimum, plus X number of years trying to conceive naturally.  Of course, those undergoing cancer treatment young should be given the opportunity of egg or sperm-harvest and then free IVF - a real clinical need there.

I strongly agree that there are lots of "parentless" children around, and that perhaps simplifying the adoption process for couples unable to concieve naturally might be a better answer.


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